Former Acting Director of ICE Thomas Homan Explains the Need for Four More Years of Trump Border Policies to Ensure Our National Security


Live from Virginia Wednesday morning on The John Fredericks Show –  live weekdays on WNTW AM 820/ FM 92.7 – Richmond, WJFN FM 100.5 – Central Virginia, WMPH AM 1010 / FM 100.1 / FM 96.9 (7-9 PM) Hampton Roads, WBRG AM 1050 / FM 105.1 – Lynchburg/Roanoke and Live Weekdays 6-10 am and 24/7 Stream –  host Fredericks welcomed former director of Homeland Security Thomas Homan to the show.

During the program, Homan questioned why immigration had not been a presidential talking point and urged the Trump campaign to bring it to the fore front. He outlined the border progress under the Trump administration and how another four years of the same policies are needed to ensure national security.

Fredericks: Joining me now is Tom Homan. Always great to have former director Homan on. He ran the border security for Homeland Security. And he’s been very involved in just about everything going on. And he’s with us now, former director Tom Homan. Director Homan, great to have you with us, sir.

Homan: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it

Fredericks: Always. Give us an update because immigration has not been on the top of the campaign debate agenda the way it was in 2016 or even 2018. We got 400 miles of wall built so that’s calmed down. The president and his policies have gotten illegal immigration under control in the last about 12 months. So it’s not been on anybody’s radar screen. Give us an update as to where we are right now.

Homan: Well you’re exactly right. They should be talking about immigration. That’s probably the biggest divider between Trump and Biden. But look this president has illegal immigration down anywhere between 65 to 80 percent from the high last year depending on what month you look at. Which is an unprecedented success. I’ve never seen that kind of success under any president I’ve worked for and I’ve worked for six from starting with Ronald Reagan.

But he’s done a great job he’s done it without the help of Congress. He’s done it without the help of the courts. He’s done it because he’s made agreements with Central America. He’s made agreements with Mexico. He has the Remain in Mexico program. He has a Title 42 COVID requirement. So he’s done great. And you know Democrats don’t want to talk about it because they want this president to fail his number one campaign promise.

But he’s won on it and he’s won by himself. So it should be talked about. Almost 400 miles of wall built up. He’s kept his promise. And we got a safer board we ever had. And we need to have another four years to finish what he’s doing because Biden has clearly said that he is going to put a moratorium on deportations. He’s going to get rid of ICE private detentions. He’s going to give him free health care.

And when he does deport them he’s only deporting those who have a serious criminal felony convictions. So he’s going to send a message to the rest of the world that it’s okay to enter this country illegally. You won’t be detained. You won’t be removed. And you will get free healthcare. Who wouldn’t come under the circumstances? So if Joe Biden becomes president we lose the border we lose all the success under the current administration.

Fredericks: It’s almost like what they’re doing is a magnet. Because if the Biden team if the Biden-Harris team gets in there that’s really what it is. Director Homan and it’s a team if Biden-Harris get in there they’ve got a three-pronged approach which is release. And then go to a sanctuary city so they’re protected. And then get free healthcare and free housing.

So if you’re in an illegal and if you want to come to America why would you bother to go through the laborious process of doing it legally when you know under a Biden administration even if caught you’re gonna get released and then even if you’re released there’s some semblance of ICE remaining you can go to a sanctuary city and be protected. And then once you’re in the sanctuary city protected and you can’t get deported or apprehended then you can get free healthcare or free housing etc. isn’t that like the great magnet of all time?

Homan: Yes. It’s an incredible enticement. And look ICE won’t be around if Biden is president. They may be there you know in name. But if he if he’s only going allow deportations of those convicted of serious felonies most you know ICE should be out of the job. Because you can commit multiple misdemeanors and not be even though you’re in the country illegally that judge order you removed we can’t remove you under a Biden administration.

And let’s just cut to the chase. Why do the Democrats why does the Left think this way? Well, why do they think this way they want illegal aims in this country. They want to be counted on the Census because it means more seats in the House which leads to the electoral college which leads to power. They want them in the country.

They know the vast majority will vote Democrat but before they even start voting Democrats because this country’s showing over and over can you stay here and hide out long enough we’ll give you amnesty and sooner invited to vote. But the thing is right now that’s why they don’t want the citizenship question on the Census. Why? Because they want them counted they want those seats in the House. They want the electoral college vastly swinging their way this is all about their own future power.

Fredericks: So it’s all about power. It doesn’t have anything to do with the U.S. worker, our budget, the security nothing is just about raw power for the Democrats. We’re with Thomas Homan and he’s a former well he’s a former police officer he was also acting director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) from January 2017 until the summer of 2018 and he’s now a Fox News contributor.

Mr. Director, this has not been on anybody’s radar screen and all that Biden mentioned the other day was something about kids in cages of course it was Obama that constructed the cages, not Trump and Trump pointed that out. Why isn’t this an issue that is going to drive people away from Biden? I mean he’s looking at flooding the country with illegal aliens. Illegals eating up health care and coming into your city and taking services away. Long lines at the emergency rooms. Why isn’t this a campaign issue for people?

Homan: Well look it should be. I actually talked to the Trump campaign the other day and told him you guys need to be pushing this. Certainly, the Democrats aren’t pushing it. The current administration should be pushing and pushing it out loud because it is the biggest divider. And it’s going to destroy this country. The country you and I both know. It’s going to hurt our economies.

And whenever we lose security over the border when hundreds of thousands of people come to that border, it ties the border up. This turns any humanitarian issue into a national security issue because when the border is overrun it ties up agents that have to care for family units. That’s when the bad guys come. That’s when the drugs come in. These families came two years ago. What happened?

That same year 68,000 Americans died of opioid overdoses of drugs from across that border. Gang members came in. And I’ll say this if there’s not a secure border in control all tied up with these family units dealing with all these illegal aliens that’s when if you’re in somebody in this world wants to come here and do us harm wants to blow something up you’re going to come across that border the same way 20 million others did. Especially when half the border patrol is no longer on the line because they’re busy with family unit alien processing.

And you know you can’t get a plane ticket anymore to 911 to come in this country or so many database checks are done. You can’t get a VISA because of the reason the security program that was put in place after 911. Any derogatory information and any database tech you’re not getting a VISA. You’re not getting a plane ticket. So how are you going to come here and hurt us? You are going to come across the southern border while half the border patrol is tied up with families. This is more than an immigration issue. This is a national security issue and it needs to be on the front of everybody’s mind.

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