Live from Music Row Friday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed the original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael to the studio.
During the second hour, Carmichael defined and outlined what he called the four levels of thinking that the United States has with other countries while explaining how China has continuously lobbied between being our adversary and our enemy. Through permeating our culture by way of media, Hollywood, and D.C., he explained how China has become an existential threat to America without firing one shot.
Leahy: It is Friday, December the 11. Two weeks before Christmas. In the studio with us The original all-star panelist Crom Carmichael. Good morning Crom.
Carmichael: Michael, how are you, sir?
Leahy: Well, it’s two weeks before Christmas and we’re going to see if the Supreme Court will deliver a Christmas present to the country by choosing to take this Texas lawsuit.
Carmichael: Do we have any idea when the Supreme Court decides? Is it a vote of the entire court? And then when will we know the decision?
Leahy: The decision to take it up?
Carmichael: Yeah, not for the first question but who decides?
Leahy: I’m not sure of this.
Carmichael: You know, can we find out because I’ve even asked lawyers and they don’t know.
Leahy: I think I know too.
Carmichael: What do you think it is?
Leahy: I think it is but I don’t know. There has to be a minimum of nine justices who say they want to hear the case. I don’t know if it’s three or four. So if they say yeah, we want to hear it then they would hear it. That’s what I think but I don’t know.
Carmichael: We’re going to know the answers here soon I think. What’s today? Friday?
Leahy: We should know it before Monday.
Carmichael: Yes. I think you are right. I think we’ll know over the weekend whether or not they are going to hear the case.
Leahy: Before nine o’clock on Monday, which would mean by Sunday evening because the case is asking for an injunction, a temporary restraining order to prevent these states from naming and casting ballots for electors.
Leahy: Georgia and Michigan was waiting…
Carmichael: Which the Supreme Court has the authority if they decide to hear the case to delay that.
Leahy: They absolutely have the right to do that because the 14th is set in statute, not in the Constitution.
Carmichael: But I’ll tell you what I want to talk about Michael and that is I’m reading another book.
Leahy: All you do is read books, Crom. (Chuckles)
Carmichael: I think I’ve mentioned it to you. I have finished the book on the French Revolution. And you are correct. Robespierre did die. He did not make it through.
Carmichael: He didn’t make it through even in this book. But it’s fascinating.
Leahy: However if a Democrat wrote the history he might have made it. (Chuckles)
Carmichael: He might have made it. Yeah, it’d be like The Man in the High Castle. But I want to talk about the Communist Chinese Party’s influence in our country. And there are four levels but there may be more but for me, there are four levels of thinking about a relationship that the United States has with another country.
It doesn’t have to be only one of these and so it can be overlapped. One is an ally. One is a competitor. One is an adversary. And one is an enemy. And so for example, I put Great Britain as an ally and they are also a competitor.
So that’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with being in competition with your allies. China is and I put them somewhere between an adversary and an enemy. They’re also a competitor. But the fact that they are between adversary and enemy means that as a competitor we need to consider their nature and how we compete with them.
Leahy: My view is they’re moving very rapidly from adversary to an enemy.
Carmichael: Yeah, and that’s the point I’m getting ready to make. Is that they are somewhere in between there. But let’s look at the institutions that the Communist Chinese Party has a tremendous influence on. They spend tens of millions of dollars a year in Washington on lobbyists supporting their position with politicians. And you see what they did with Eric Swalwell who is claiming his situation is a Russian plot which is the silliest thing.
Leahy: Even the guys at Axios are laughing hysterically at that.
Carmichael: But Pelosi says she still has confidence in him. That’s problematic.
Leahy: She’s totally a lunatic on this.
Carmichael: What I’m saying is that she may be in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party. We know about Dianne Feinstein Chinese staffer. And let me make sure that we’re very clear on this. The Communist Chinese Party is the authoritarian ruling structure of China. Not all Chinese. In fact, the great majority of Chinese are not Communists and the Chinese people themselves would like to be free but they don’t understand what freedom is because they really never have been free.
They’ve been ruled by either dynasties or Communists for essentially their entire history for thousands of years. But let’s look at what that the Communist Chinese party. They’ve infiltrated our government. They’ve infiltrated our educational system. And that’s where the Confucius institutes and also I believe that there is probably significant support by the Communist Chinese Party with the 1619 Project.
Leahy: Oh absolutely. The New York Times false history of America that is permeating our schools.
Carmichael: Yes. To try to destroy our history. Because you have to destroy our history if you’re going to destroy the value system that underpins America and what makes it different from China. They have infiltrated our media. They’ve even infiltrated Hollywood. And they’ve infiltrated many many of our businesses. And they’ve infiltrated a lot of our culture.
And so the influence of the Communist Chinese Party is somewhere between an adversary and an enemy that’s influence is probably the greatest existential threat that we have as a country. And when I say existential let’s be sure that we understand the definition of that. Because a lot of people in the media use it and they don’t even know what it means. And it means the rest of your very existence.
Leahy: A threat to your very existence. And by the way from a logical perspective and what we know about Democrats. When they charge you with doing something and they’re aggressive in that charge and means they’re doing exactly that. And if you tie back to this the whole Russia Russia Russia influencing that they charge falsely against Donald Trump really I’ve always thought has been a deflection against their own corruption and control by the Chinese Communist Party.
Carmichael: Yeah, and let’s be very clear about something. Russia is is somewhere between an adversary and an enemy. I’ll accept that. Russia is not a competitor. They don’t make anything that we would buy. What they are is their country is based on natural resources…
Carmichael: That they sell to in the world market. That’s how they make their money. The Russian economy is smaller than that of Italy. I’m going to repeat that. the Russian economy is smaller than that of Italy. If a communist took over the Italian government and declared war on the United States, what would be our response would be Mamma Mia! (Laughter) And then we would all laugh because we wouldn’t be concerned about that.
Now does the Soviet Union have nuclear missiles? Yes. But do they have the ability to influence our institutions? And the answer is no. In fact, when they were a more powerful country they actually did try to do that and they failed. But the Communist Chinese Party is approaching it from a very different standpoint. And here’s what’s the most important part about what the Communist Chinese Party is trying to do.
They’re trying to take over our country without firing a shot. And that’s because you have to look at the way that the Communist Chinese Party operates within their own country. And the way that they operate within their own country is how they would like to see the United States government operate in this country under the Communist Chinese Party’s influence.
And so when you look at a map of China and that area of the world there are three different shadings. One is the core of China. The second is that part of China that was conquered by the most recent two dynasties in China. And then you have the vassal states that are the ones that pay homage to China and more or less it’s like mob protection money. Because if you’ll pay the money and give us the due respect then we won’t destroy your business. And those would include Vietnam.
It would include the Korea’s. Now I don’t think South Korea is in that group now, but they were. But North Korea is. And China wants South Korea to be in it. North China does want Taiwan to be in it, but it’s not now. And so you have all of the countries. Thailand was in there and still is in that they’re under the influence. And then within the country of China, any religious group, which is why there’s a slave labor camp, any religious group in China is squashed because religion runs contradictory to their idea of authoritarianism.
Leahy: Yes. Because religion promotes independent thought yes by every individual. They hate that.
Carmichael: It also sets up the authority for the individual which is really to God. That’s the ultimate authority.
Leahy: And that’s really what the United States was based on. Our God-given rights.
Carmichael: Yes. And so that’s why they’re trying to tear down our statues why they’re trying to change the names of all of our institutions away from the founding fathers because of the ideas that this country was founded on. And that this is an ongoing battle.
Leahy: It is and it’s one that has kind of snuck up on us. But now it’s right here and we’ve got to do something about it.
Listen to the second hour here:
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