Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – host Leahy welcomed Aaron Gulbransen, the Tennessee state director for the Faith and Freedom Coalition, in studio to discuss what will happen with the three Democrats who played a part in last week’s Capitol riot.
Leahy: In studio, the state director of the Tennessee Faith and Freedom Coalition, Aaron Gulbransen. Just walking through how it’s gonna happen today. The House will convene at about nine o’clock. There will be protestors in the galleries and outside the chambers.
I anticipate that the protestors will get too rowdy before the resolution comes in for consideration that they will be removed from the gallery for being too rowdy. And then at 11 o’clock, they’ll begin one at a time for the expulsion resolutions.
And let’s start with Gloria Johnson. Aaron, you say that they will set some rules and parameters they’ll have a certain amount of time to make their case. How long do you think that will be?
Gulbransen: It varies in these situations. I’ve seen it be as long as an hour, but I can’t imagine that they’re going to do that because it would be insane. I think it would probably suffice for 10 or 15 minutes max.
Leahy: 15 minutes, probably.
Gulbransen: I’m unfamiliar with this side. There’s a potential thing. You could conceivably make a motion to consider all the issues in block, which would be considering their cases all at the same time.
Leahy: I don’t think that’ll happen.
Gulbransen: I haven’t heard that’s happening.
Leahy: The resolutions are separate. Each one has been presented by a separate state legislator. I think what’ll happen is, again we’re a little bit speculating here, those who are up for expulsion will have a period of time to defend themselves. And then I think it would be likely that the people who put forward the resolution will then make the case for expulsion.
And then, by the way, Gino Bolso, one of the best lawyers in America is one of the three who’ve put together the expulsion for one of these folks. I would not want to be on the other end of that argument with Gino Bolso.
Gulbransen: No, I tell you something, I wouldn’t either. And I do expect John Mark Windle’s presentation on behalf of Gloria Johnson to be the most professional of the three.
Leahy: Frankly, I would start with Gloria. The reason I would start with Gloria, if you’re good at doing these in order, is that she has hired John Mark-Windle to make the case for her. He was once a majority leader of the house when he was a Democrat.
He represented his district here in the Tennessee General Assembly for 30 years. He’s a former colonel in the Tennessee National Guard, and he served in Iraq. He’s a really fine person.
Gulbransen: And he’s certainly not a darling of the far-left. And in this particular case, if you were wondering why Aaron just said that, John Mark Windell’s not a darling of the far-left, and yet somehow he’s representing crazy Marxist Gloria Johnson, money’s green.
Leahy: He’s an attorney. They kicked him out of the Democratic Party. And he didn’t get re-elected. A Republican won this last time. He’s very familiar with the rules of the House, and I would start with him. She apparently is going to have him make the case for her.
He will be the best representative any of these have. They’ll vote on her, up or down. My guess is they’ll vote to kick her out. Then I think next will be Justin Pearson or Justin Jones. I don’t think either of those guys is going to give the limelight to an attorney.
Gulbransen: I fully expect them to take the opportunity to do more of what they and what got them in this situation, which is agitation. And they’re probably going to issue condemnations and paint themselves as the victim…
Leahy: Martyrs!
Gulbransen: And say, how dare the General Assembly not pass gun control, but they’re persecuting us, which is basically what they’ve been saying on Twitter. Which is utter garbage. As an aside, by the way, I also fully 1,000 percent oppose any notion of passing a red flag law.
Leahy: In other words, they’ve not even introduced any legislation of note that they’ve worked on. They didn’t vote on the school resource officer law. They’re not serious.
Gulbransen: Justin Jones, Gloria Johnson, and Justin Pearson are the quintessential examples very often in this world, when you wonder how people like this got elected to office very often is that the best and the brightest decided not to run.
And you’re left with the scraps in these in these districts. So you have a massive Democrat majority in them. But yeah, no, you’re 100 percent right. These people are about as unserious as they as the old Saturday morning cartoons.
Leahy: Justin Jones will do, however long he has, 10, 15 minutes, he will get up there and rant and rave and paint himself as a martyr. He’s not playing for his fellow legislators.
Gulbransen: He’s got two different voices. So he’ll use this when he’s trying to make his point. It is his 1960s Democrat voice that he puts on in these situations.
Leahy: I’m the new Jesse Jackson. But he’s a con man. Folks, this kid is a con man.
Gulbransen: That’s the kindest thing you can say.
Leahy: Other than the other two who are being expelled or up for expulsion today, the other Democrats know that he’s a con. They know that he’s all about himself. They know he has no interest in passing any legislation to help his constituents, that he’s about promoting his own megalomania.
But in a sense, though, Aaron, I think this is a microcosm of the political discourse in America today. You’ve got far-left lunatics who are chanting and screaming and then you’ve got serious people who are trying to solve problems.
Gulbransen: You couldn’t have said it better.
Leahy: Phil Williams was trying to promote this idea. Sam Whitson, a Republican from Williamson County, said maybe this will make him a martyr. See, the problem is Sam, as you’re thinking about this he’s already on that martyr path.
He’s created a martyr. He’s going to make himself a martyr whether you expel him or not. If you don’t expel him, he’ll have a bigger venue for that martyrdom.
Gulbransen: Basically their whole messaging presupposes victimhood.
Leahy: Aaron, be safe up there. Thank you so much for joining us, but be safe because I think that there’s a possibility that the left-wing rioters are gonna be looking for trouble.
Gulbransen: I’ve got security with me, so we’ll be good.
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Photo “Justin Jones and Justin Pearson” by March for Our Lives.
all 3 should have been voted out.
too bad the two expelled will probably be back immediately.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. It is unfortunate that Johnson slithered by. Her tepid actions did not mitigate her being fully on board with the conspiracy to insight a riot. They are however indicative of her character. She only does what serves her interest. Her involvement in Democrat fundraising circles makes her a rising political star. Her willingness to do whatever it takes so long as someone else suffers any consequence is all to apparent.