K.T. McFarland Says Mueller Interrogators Put Her Through ‘Hell’ and Left Her ‘Traumatized’

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by Debra Heine

 

Longtime Republican politico K.T. McFarland said in a radio interview Wednesday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team pressured her for “20, 30, 40 hours of hell” to either cop a plea or implicate other Trump associates in crimes, even though she didn’t think she or they did anything wrong.

McFarland, who served a four-month stint under Trump’s short-lived national security adviser Michael Flynn, was ensnared in Mueller’s dragnet after leaving the administration in May 2017.

She described the “trauma” she experienced at the hands of Mueller’s interrogators in November of 2017, during an interview on WMAL radio in Washington DC.

McFarland said that she was at a disadvantage when she was being questioned because she no longer had access to her White House files.

“I am the original girl scout,” the former deputy national security adviser explained. “I followed all the rules, I turned in all of my files and my phone logs and my test messages and emails when I left government, didn’t leak to the press.”

Unfortunately, she said, “playing by the rules” is what got her “in so much trouble.”

“When the Mueller people came knocking at my door, they started quizzing me on stuff that I didn’t have access to and didn’t remember 100 percent accurately, and it allowed them to say, ‘well you must be lying then,’” McFarland told WMAL hosts Vince Coglianese and Mary Walter.

Walter asked McFarland why she wasn’t in the same position as Flynn, who ended up pleading guilty to a crime he didn’t commit (after Mueller threatened to bring criminal charges against his son). She replied: “because I didn’t break.”

“They gave me the distinct impression after … 20, 30, 40 hours of hell that they wanted me to either plead guilty to a crime I didn’t feel I committed, or to talk about other people having done things that I didn’t think they had done,” she explained.

The former Trump aide told the hosts that the Mueller interrogators didn’t come right out and say they wanted her to cop a plea, but that “was the impression they conveyed.”

McFarland, a foreign policy and national security expert whose political career goes back to the 1970s, said she’d had “a really hard time of it” and almost broke herself.

“At one point, I turned to my lawyer and said, ‘just tell me what they want me to say and I’ll say it!’” she recalled.

McFarland told the hosts that she just wanted the ordeal—which cost her hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees—to be over with.

“My husband, God bless him, said ‘you can’t do that. Even if we go bankrupt,” she continued. So McFarland decided to stand her ground.

“I finally said, no, you’re going to have to charge me with a crime,” she said. “At that point, they went away because I couldn’t give them what they needed to spin their web. And then they moved on to the porn star queen,” she added, referring to porn star Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels.

McFarland said that afterward she felt “so traumatized,” she and her husband left the country.

“We went to the remotest part of Scotland,” she said. “And I just tried to think about, ‘what is happening to my country?!’”

“This tool, which we had given the intelligence community—which is a good thing for them to have if they’re tracking down mass murderers and terrorists—they were using it for political purposes to go after political enemies,” McFarland lamented.

After her “time in the wilderness,” she said she realized that the country was going through a “revolution” that was way bigger than the anti-Trump Washington establishment.

“They’re a certain group of people who have gotten used to governing and they think it is their divine right,” she explained. “And even if the American voter votes for someone who wants to get rid of them or change their policies, they feel they have the patriotic duty to overrule election results.”

Because of these unanswerable bureaucrats, the United States is now in “a very dangerous place,” McFarland warned.

“We Americans have the constitutional right to have political revolutions at the ballot box and we go through this every four years because government by its nature, digs in, becomes status-quo,” she explained. “They want to protect their privileges and policies and so whenever somebody comes along and says, ‘lets do something differently,’ they resist, they fight.”

She described this struggle as “a fight between the governed and the people who are doing the governing” and declared: “We the people think we should be in charge.”

McFarland said this power-hungry Washington establishment was made up of “permanent, professional politicians at the administrative state” and people in the bureaucratic state “who can’t be fired from government,” as well as “think tanks, the mainstream media.”

“They’re all part of the same group and they think they’re the ones in charge,” she said.

McFarland said her new book, Revolution: Trump, Washington and “We the People” describes her ordeal in greater detail. It’s set to be released on February 25.

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Debra Heine is a regular contributor to American Greatness.
Photo “KT McFarland” by Gage Skidmore. CC BY-SA 2.0. Background Photo “DOJ Building” by Tony Webster. CC BY 2.0.

 

 

 

 


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18 Thoughts to “K.T. McFarland Says Mueller Interrogators Put Her Through ‘Hell’ and Left Her ‘Traumatized’”

  1. […] you want to know exactly how bad the Mueller investigation was, just read this article about the unbelievable persecution of K.T. McFarland.  The strategy seems relatively […]

  2. CCW

    K. T. McFarland:”… she said she realized that the country was going through a “revolution” that was way bigger than the anti-Trump Washington establishment.”

    “They’re a certain group of people who have gotten used to governing and they think it is their divine right,” she explained. “And even if the American voter votes for someone who wants to get rid of them or change their policies, they feel they have the patriotic duty to overrule election results.”

    Because of these unanswerable bureaucrats, the United States is now in “a very dangerous place,” McFarland warned.

    Could not have said it better myself. Dirty cops, dirty lawyers, dirty politicians, and fake news seem to be taking control of our national government. Why are the Senate investigating committees stalled out?

  3. Rick Covert

    20, 30, or 40 hours of hell? What was it? I can see why investigators might be a little frustrated with your grasp of facts.

  4. Jesse Larner

    Flynn “pleaded guilty to a crime he didn’t commit”? Says Flynn.
    He was guilty and MacFarland was guilty too.
    It is impossible to serve the most corrupt administration ever without partaking in that corruption.

  5. Bairkus

    Well done. Thank you KT & Debra.

  6. Mike CJ

    Wow. Truth be told, I am sure the DNC server was not allowed to be examined by any government agency for a reason–the “Russia hacked us” thing was total baloney to distract from the manipulation of the primary that the leaked emails exposed. When you pair that with the side project of the Steele dossier that the DNC and Hillary paid for, you have a whole scenario they could project and get people to believe. Likely, most Democrats and justice officials knew that the notion that a veteran spy network, like Russia’s, would bet its chips on a candidate that EVERY expert at the time said had no chance in hell of ever being elected was absurd, but they went with it.

    1. Richard Axley

      Thank you Democrats for the worst scandal in political history of the United States. A candidate for Presidential office is subjected to unlawful surveillance (FISA court said it was unlawful), wiretapped, and otherwise subject to counterintelligence tools designed for REAL spies and terrorists on the thinnest of ‘reasons’ by the opposing party for political reasons. This is one for the history books brought to you by the Obama administration. I hope those apologizing for these illegal, immoral and bullying tactics get a taste of the ‘good government’ that they are advocating for everyone in the US.

  7. Jan

    Name names of those corrupt officers.

    1. Charlotte

      Reminds me of the Apartheid South African Securty police interrogation techniques

  8. Never talk to police, the fbi or any kind on investigators. They may be running a rogue investigation and are just wanting an easy conviction. Ask Martha Stewart or Roger Stone about talking with Law Enforcement; or perhaps Richard Jewel.

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